DISQUS

Nathan Andover · 1 year ago

Is the government being run by the coalition that won the recent elections?

amirlovesall · 1 year ago

the coalition are as careless and stupid as bush can co exist with the fishes

egarris · 1 year ago

Yes, although there are elements of the Musharraf bloc still in positions of power, especially in the military.

bachu · 1 year ago

The Pak Generals need more US bribes after which they will shut their faces.

Thomas_thomas · 1 year ago

The facts: Pakistan created, supported and armed the Taliban from its inception in 1994 for the purpose of creating a client state in Afghanistan (remember that Afghanistan has always been allied with India and that Pakistan thus saw a client state in Afghanistan as a way to neutralize this -- and the Taliban were created for this purpose). Then, it did a total turn around in 2001 under pressure from the US. Since then, Pakistan has been nettling Afghanistan, applying pressure on it by way of allowing covert support for the Taliban from its soil since stiill, to this date, Afghanistan holds animoisty towards Pakistan and is still allied with India (remeber the saying: "the more things change, the more they are the same?"). But now things have gotten out of control (when has there ever been any real control in Pakistan), and we are seeing the results of things. Pakistan need to be reigned in, and the sooner the better. The only question is: how?

Thomas_thomas · 1 year ago

I am a US national, have lived and worked in Pakistan for many years since 1989 and have always felt that Afghanistan will never have peace as long as it shares a border with Pakistan. Part of this is due to Afghanistan's failure to recognize the artifical border (Durrand Line) between it and Pakistan and the resulting alliance it has alwyays had with India, much to Pakistan's annoyance. Thus the continual effort on the part of Pakistan to both destablize Afghanistan and to bring it into its fold (ie. make it into a client state), something that it will never succeed in doing. What we are seeing now is only the latest chapter of the above being played out. I cannot help but see Pakistan the eventual loser in such a game.

amirlovesall · 1 year ago

Yes exactly thats why they just found out now that in Kandahar during the Pro Pakistani Taliban they dumped Nuclear waste there. So this is a good indication of how Pakistan used Afghanistan as a slave state. I mean come on, you've seen other powerful countries who occupied others but still shown respect to them and didnt dump their nuclear waste so little children and future generations suffer from diseases and malnutrition! its a shame truely! Also under the Taliban nearly 50 percent of Afghanistan natural wood and trees were cut down causing a huge impact on the enviroment and wild life and guess who was responsible for this carelessness, yes you got PAKISTAN! you see Pakistan deserves all it gets! its good America has turned on it, maybe Pakistanis will feel the pain others feel because of them!

Dr.Khan · 1 year ago

Are you sure it's Pakistan's Nuke Waste?don't you think it will harm
the land and people across borders equally as both share same land?
how about the fact that Nato and USA may very well have done this unless Pakistan is stupid enough to have left an identification mark "mess made in Pakistan".

amirlovesall · 1 year ago

yep...it was confirmed Pakistani Nuclear waste buried deep into the ground. It has harmed the people and land. Its Also received a "no comment" from the Pakistani Side. If Pakistan was so sure it wasnt theirs they wouldnt be avoiding the question would they? Why should one keep on accusing NAto and USA for everything,Pakistan plays a big role in destablising Afghanistan because Indian army are in Afghanistan right now. Pakistan is not professional as these NATO people are, I mean come on they killed Bhutto so soon. Taliban are the most intolarable people on the Planet, they banned clapping, attan,and destroyed pashtunwali and also pushto Music, they were a demonic people,Iam from Waziristan,razmack they one side take over petrol stations,extort the people,the Pakistan army on the other side bomb the people, take over hotels,and markets forcing the natives to pay ransom ina form of food and their homes(so unprofessional) its the poor people who are stuck in the middle
since most of them are my family and relatives. Reporters are banned by pak army from
entering waziristan so nobody gets to see the realities. My uncle the other day called
and he said both the taliban and Pak army are both drinking tea together.
Pakistans playing this double sided game and its pashtuns such as me who suffer
in the end.

Dr.Khan · 1 year ago

Thomas I have lived in USA and has earned the confidence to speak free and
truth.First you don't sound like an American if so then living in Pakistan has made a liar out of YOU on the contrary.Afghanistan along with it's unfortunate
population is a land that is being sandwiched between conflicting interests.
and while you are sitting comfortable back home it is all your Govt foreign
policy for that region to keep the situation so for their own wested global
agenda.and about Pakistan as you say the sooner the better but how.
Well to tell you the good news.it is already started for last seven years and about HOW?well though I have no more confidence in our highly sold out Generals
of the Paksitan Army.it is enough for you to know what happened to USSR.
and "how".that happened.don't you see slowly its happening the again,this
time with Usa instead of USSR.WAKE UP AND SMELL IT
but I know America intends to learn it hard way and your how has its answer
embeded in it.Live and Let live Man..

amirlovesall · 1 year ago

First of all the USSR came in support of Afghanistan to stop pakistan blocking the main trade route
Pakistan made Afghanistan starve to death.On the other hand Pakistan was habouring
big drug dealing thugs such as ahmad shah masood,hekmatyar and many others
Zia ul haq the evil man that he is, didnt want pashtikawa from returning to Afghanistan
so he used islamist fanatics with US support to destroy Afghanistan and bring it on2 its knees
This is why its good pakistan is tasting the same medicine it used against Afghanistan.
Pakistan is soon to collapse as well,its finished,its gods punishment on Pakistan
for turning the whole south asia into a conflict zone. Always blaiming USA and NATO
all these terrorists were trained and taught radicalism in PAKISTAN!
how can you blaime America and NATO for everything. You could have said NO
ahmed shah masood,hekmatyrar go to Afghanistan and sort your problems out but you
see devil zia ul haq knew very well he cud use these people and turn Afghanistan into
a slave state and he even stated it go check it he said "in Afghanistan, pakistan needs a
islamic radical government whos loyal and obidient to PAKISTAN" he even warned
hekmatyar that "remmeber who made you where you are" USA is NOT USSR, USSR went there
to save the people from Imperialism from the west,you Pakistanis taught heyyy lets make some
goooood profit as usual on somebody elses blood! USA does not care for human life
USSR did,they avoided uses their good equipment knowing it will turn public against them.
USA doesnt care,if they wanted too,they cud carpet waziristan right into the gound if they wanted 2
and nobody would say anything not even Pakistan. Its too late to be blaiming the generals alll
the time,half of asia warned Pakistan not to be training terrorists to go against Afghanistan
but the money you lisnted too and your future is finished.

Thomas_thomas · 1 year ago

I am not sure I understand your text below. But
suffice it to say, that I am not very nationalistic
toward my own country (the US) and even less so toward
Pakistan (where I lived for 13 years for work). I am
52 years old and was born and raised in the US.


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amirlovesall · 1 year ago

Fazul Rehman and Benazir Bhutto created the Taliban for an oil pipe as you know and watched 9/11 fraihant you will see the Taliban ambassador visit america for a oil conference. You see Taliban were also created by America,Since America sent funds through Pakistan. Pakistan needed the influence there and to make sure the afghanistan army or government doesnt become strong because by law half of pakistan belongs to Afghanistan,so these Pakistanis fear that they will loose the pashtun areas to Afghanistan so this is why they send in relgionous nuttjobs with saudis help to brainwash the people and make them go backwards away from any nationalism or education. Pakistan encourages the burning of girls schools in NWFP because they fear a educated enemy. Also if the Punjabi government of Pakistan loves these barbarian taliban then why dont they appoint a taliban minister as their member of the government of the punjab lol! you see they wont,they will only let others suffer while they live nicely!

Ayubia · 1 year ago

Everybody on this board is commenting about Pak interference in Afghanistan, it is true Pak has been interfering in Pakistan for the following reasons:

Afghanistan has never recognized the Durand line as the border, even though it was the Afghan govt. that signed the agreement accepting the border, after Pakistans creation Afghanistan through the efforts of Daoud Khan (attacking Pakistan) , Zahir Shah and subsequently the Parcham and Khalq through KHAD supported Pukhtun separatists. Baloch separatists and communists. THIS HAPPENED BEFORE PAKISTAN started to become involved in Affghanistan.

Secondly, like ot or not; after the Soviet war Pakistan and Afghanistan have become intertwined in terms of politics, society, and most importantly economically, there are 2,100,000 DOCUMENTED Afghan refugess still in Pakistan with as many as 6,000,000 plus their descendents that are undocumented or have attained Pakistani residency through obtaining Pakistani residency through illegal channels.

In conclusion Afghanistan has been succesful in merging Pakistan with Afghanistan, unfortunately it is not on Afghanistan's terms

jasonphx1 · 1 year ago

Does anyone see the problem of using F-15's and B-1 bombers to fight these skirmishes? As accurate as they claim, do we really know who we are bombing from 30,000 feet??? We saw the same thing in Serbia, the US Gov doesn't want casualties not because they are worried about our troops, but they are worried about public support....so BOMB BOMB BOMB from afar. Who cares of the "collateral damage" right?

...and on top of that, what cost comes to us from this? Operational costs for a F-15 are probably around $11-15,000 per hour....there were two F-15's involved...and the B-1? One of the most sophisticated bombers built? How much per hour is that? $15-$30,000 per hour? ....and the guided ordinace? We probably dropped, oh, $120,000 worth of weaponery???

To do what? Kill a couple guys with machine stamped AK-47's and RPG's?

...and yet another problem, why destroy these people in big mushroom cloud puffs of smoke? Do you know if they survived??? Do you know who they were? Did you capture any maps? Did you get info from POW's about activities in the area???? NOPE. You have fun little videos of dust clouds.

No wonder we are losing our wars - breaking our banks......AND MAKING ENEMIES OUT OF OUR FRIENDS.

paolo · 1 year ago

The US will wind up leaving Afghanistan as a scare dog with its tail between its hine legs just like the Ruassians did. We are there simply to show our super power status and a supremesist pig that we are.

Tanus · 1 year ago

Thomas you are correct to some extent. Sadly Pakistan, unlike India, continued the British 'raj' policies and allowed brutal landowners to maintain their grip not just on their estates but eventually got their claws on key government seats as well. The biggest hinderence to Pakistan's development is the disparity in public view on what Pakistan ought to be - Islamic State or a a Pseudo-Islamic Secularist Puppet State doing the bidding of whoever throws the meatiest bone. Yes - sounds like Pakistan is pretty much the beggar state similar to the millions of beggars that throng its cities. Like Dicken's A Tale of Two Cities, there is very sharp divide between the overwhelming poor majority and the tiny percentage of parasites that make up the elite. The poor have seen and suffered it all. Poverty & misery from its inception under the Anglophile Quiad-e-Azam who suffered from a deep identity crisis (a malady all pakistanis suffer from), the same under, US's Bhutto including the daughter, who raped the country with her husband and likewise under every major US/UK Puppet regime. Islam truly never got a chance in Pakistan. Now the people do want it. They are sick of blood sucking capitalists, the lunatic communists and the shameless self-deprecating secularist Kemal Attaturk wanna be bastards like Musharraf and the ignorant Mullas who preach a mix of Islam/Hinduism/Shiasm/Quadianiism/ Madness-ism. I say get a poor honest Islamist bloke to power who is not afraid of shoving a stick up US's arse or the UK's an dwho will piss on EU dictates. Who is willing to chase out the 0.01% rich affluent parasites who live in Pakistan sucking its resources while holding on to easy access to US or UK the moment things go wrong. I say like old France - let heads roll. The country needs a blood transfusion. Let the blood flow.

Dekzsty Dart · 1 year ago

U.S. agression to send message: NO DEFENSE POSSIBLE for troops (or anyone) on Baluchistan border. Purpose? Cut pipeline to isolate Iran. (Same reason marines attacking far South Pastuns).Opposition? Just about everybody - including the NATO "allies"!

assadiq · 1 year ago

The only logical thing for Pakistan and AFghanistan to do is to ditch the frontier created by the British 'diktat' whose sole justification was creation of a buffer state between Russian Bear and the British bulldog. A supposed (albeit fictitious) longing by the Russians for a 'warm water port' which served about the same purpose for the British as the Iraqi WMDs did for Bush.
The Pakhtoon nation is bisected by the Durand Line, an intolerable situation for the nationalists. What Pakistan has to offer Afghans is (a) access to sea, (b) a citizenry that is reasonably modern and receptive to represntative form of government., (c) legal access to vast markets and institutions of higher learning and (d) esssential unity of faith. What Afghanistan has to offer Pakistan is a) a defendable nation and b) access to vast mineral wealth including gas deposits and fissionable materials. A Pak-Afghan Federation will be a win-win situation for both because there is historical, geographical , cultural and ethnic affinity between those two nations. Only, they will have to start thinking of themselves as citizens of (Silk Road?) Federation rather then as Sindhis, Punjabis, Balochis, Pushtoon, Hazaras, Tajiks, Mahajitr etc etc.
Think about it. indians did it. EU is doing it. North Yemen and South Yemen did it. Why not Pakistanis and Afghans?

Thomas George · 1 year ago

Lapdog?? More like clean up dog going around the brothel and slurping up the jucy condoms the MEN leave behind!! He has no shame!! I like assadiq's idea, A federation of Pakistan & Afghanistan.... How about a Pushtunistan and Balochistan federation with nice port.....In the end , Isn't Pakistan occupying alot of land that it really has no clain to--except that the British claimed it or conquered it and transfered the claim?? I am an American. I have been in both Afghanistan Pakistan.... I wish I could go help the Afghans get rid of their unwanted intruders like another , NOW infamous American did.....But It would be seen by my neighbors as betrayal and the Afghans would (rightly) find me hard to trust because I'm American.....and I'm really to old to be much help..... My heart is with you....

KY · 1 year ago

The Americans are killing more civilians and allied forces in this area than enemy forces. The mainstream media has been bought by the same cabal that brought you Gulf Wars I & II and will likely bring you WWIII. The US is pressuring the Pakistani government, at gun point, to play along in fooling their own respective publics regarding the true nature of the conflict. The US and Israel are the only two rogue nations in the world today that are still waging aggressive wars, killing civilians of other nations, and expanding their own territory at the expense of other nations. How is it being justified? Scape goats, double speak, propaganda, and every trick this cabal can come up with. What is happening here is no different. They are killing civilians and the families of those civilians are now returning for revenge...it has nothing to do with "Al Qaeda" or the Taliban. Americans would be best served looking for their true enemies in Washington and New York as opposed to Afghanistan and Iraq.

anti terrorist · 1 year ago

to be friend to US mean you are ready to be a slave.....think that

Chengis Khan · 1 year ago

ok ok moderator...my apologies. And I certainly did not post them from anywhere else. I am fine with you being defensive to the accusation of being a Neocon ...but then to retort with the truly silly accusation of plagiarism??? Is it because you think non-white, non-English speaking clowns such as I could not possibly utter a word of English other than "Thaaaank you" coupled with a stupid grin and a vigorous nodding of the head? Granted my grammar and spelling suffer..a consequence of the urge to say a lot when I would rather be making the statement with a stick in my hand, to some bloody Neocon - Man, you get all hot and bothered rather quickly don't you? ok so apologies again and once again I did "NOT" copy and paste my 2 cents worth...or shall I say 2 Euro's worth....given the dollars demise....so cool off Moderator ...and don't keep slinging such indignities at poor urchins such as I.

Antiwar.com News · 1 year ago

I wasn't accusing you of plagiarism. I simply said that it looked like you wrote a long essay for many places and posted many places.

Chengis Khan · 1 year ago

As much as it drives moronic Americans and the "civilised" world insane, the Taliban who took over Afghanistan in 3 days with virtually no violence were indeed a breath of fresh air for Afghanistan and the region hitherto plagued by brutal infighting, morbid crime and rampant bloody violence. It was the Taliban who brought order by re-introducing Islam to the region. Within 6 months, there were no more kidnappings, murders and general chaos. True there were no more porno shops, or alcohol being sold, indeed they even tried eliminating Opium much to the chagrin of the Northern Alliance who then used Opium as a currency to purchase their weapons from Russia and India. Then came the bastard crusading Americans and their oil companies UNOCAL for one, for whom both arse-hole Dick Cheney and Rice worked as executives. The Taliban were feted by Ronald Regan and introduced at the White House as heroes. Their falling with the US - they would not guarantee safety of the Oil Pipeline envisioned from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan for the price offered by UNOCAL. It is common knowledge that UNOCAL's executives made an open threat to the Taliban representative visiting Texas, stating that the US made them and that the US can break them. All in all the fairytale of Osama being behind 9-11 tied in conveniently with the greater plan to cause Israel to dominate that region and also enable the US & Israel to pump virtually free oil. People in Pakistan are predominantly dirt poor. The rich, a minuscule minority, still manage to control the government and have been since Pakistan's inception. The rich have imposed their secular barbarity by allowing either foreign powers to dominate and control their politics and leaders. Even the very founding father, Quiedazam, postured himself as "English" royalty, complete with a monocle and fleet street suits. He refused to acknowledge his Indian roots, his Urdu language and even his religion, Islam - a big contrast to Ghandi, who though was a complete hypocrite was at least a good actor donning a beggar appearance to appear in sync with the common people. So from the beginning Pakistan was hijacked by first the British and since 1965 by the US. Islam was never allowed a footing in Pakistan. Looking at the Pakistani culture and religion, a mishmash of Hindu and pseudo-Islamic rituals, beliefs and practices, no wonder the country is in a state of a perpetual identity crisis, with each generation suffering and faring worse than the former. The rich Pakistanis hold on to the coat-tails of either the US or EU countries and would want to see nothing less than a continuum of the status quo. The poor masses barely get 2 meals a day. Denied a decent education, jobs and even food, they are seething for change. No more bloody Capitalism or communism or the less than noble concept of the self-deprecating Musta Kemal Attaturk the evil bastard whom Musharraf idolizes and hopes to have a legacy similar to that mad lunatics. All in all Pakistan is screwed, unless the Pakistani military and the civilian government joins forces to chase the US and their mangy allies and the NATO out of Pakistan and Afghanistan. A true revolution that indeed affects Turkey, Jordan and all of the former Islamic states. There will be no peace until the Crusading Christians and their Jew sidekicks leave Muslim lands for good, never to return again. With Pakistani and Afghan Muslims being murdered by the US and their allies each day how much longer can any self respecting Muslim suffer such indignity? An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooh. I think it is high time Pakistanis and indeed all Muslims began collecting on the debt owed them by the Crusading pigs of the world.

Antiwar.com News · 1 year ago

Because this is so long, our spam filter thought it was spam. I approved it, so stop the neocon accusations.

Chengis Khan · 1 year ago

Moderator to this site should not selectively post what pleases their sensibilities. Let their be freedom of speech. Is this a Neocon site?

Antiwar.com News · 1 year ago

We haven't moderated a thing. Why are you so defensive. And if we had, we have every right: we own the domain and content and can control who posts additional content.

Your ridiculously long comments look like you simply pasted them from elsewhere. They are not adding to the discussion at all. However, we haven't moderated them and instead let people vote your "comments" up or down.